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The Sustainability Story

The Sustainability Story presented by CFA Institute is an audio interview series of conversations with thought leaders in the world of ESG integration and sustainability. The topics include anything and everything about where finance intersects with environment, governance, sustainability, social, climate change, biodiversity, human capital management, sustainable investing, impact investing, regulations, standards, and more.  Host Matt Orsagh, CFA, CIPM is a senior director of capital markets policy at CFA Institute. His paper, Climate Change Analysis in the Investment Process was named “Best ESG Paper” by Savvy Investor in 2021. In each episode he asks his guests to tell the story of how we got here and where we are going in the journey to financial sustainability. To reach the host email


Jul 6, 2022

We talk with Timothee Parrique, doctor in economics and researcher at Lund University. We discuss degrowth, what it is, what it isn’t and how our obsession with GDP and growth are flawed measures of progress. We talk about why “green growth” is not the answer to the climate and biodiversity challenges we face and what a world that has embraced degrowth would look like. We end with a great list of resources for those looking to explore the topic further. You can find more resources at;